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tien vs. frieza
Topic Started: Oct 13 2010, 07:15 PM (2,818 Views)
lunar2 Oct 13 2010, 07:15 PM Post #1
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 scenario 1. cell saga tien vs. 100% uninjured frieza

scenario 2 buu saga tien vs. hfil 100% frieza the time pikkon fought him.
Edited by lunar2, Oct 13 2010, 07:16 PM.
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+ Pelador Oct 13 2010, 08:05 PM Post #2
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 I don't imgine Buu saga Tien is much stronger than Cell sagas Tien. The humans tended to improve more slowly than the Saiyans. I'm not sure he's even half as strong as Freeza. His Tri beam which he used on Cell was such a Hax. I'd guess he was as strong as Goku when he first faught Freeza at most. But then that's basing it off how he performed against Trunks in the Bojack film. Which allthough is not canon, is one of the films closest to the anime.


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lunar2 Oct 13 2010, 08:36 PM Post #3
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Oct 13 2010, 08:05 PM
I don't imgine Buu saga Tien is much stronger than Cell sagas Tien. The humans tended to improve more slowly than the Saiyans. I'm not sure he's even half as strong as Freeza. His Tri beam which he used on Cell was such a Hax. I'd guess he was as strong as Goku when he first faught Freeza at most. But then that's basing it off how he performed against Trunks in the Bojack film. Which allthough is not canon, is one of the films closest to the anime.
you say humans improve slowly, and that a tech that drains your life to amplify itself is hax, but 1. tien is the best human fighter even if occasionally krillin pulls ahead in raw power, and 2. tien went from getting his butt kicked by nappa to smashing the ginyu force in about 3 months. thats roughly the same increase goku got during the same time period before his zenkai right before he fought frieza. and tien is the only human that never stops training. i think tien wins both times without the tri-beam, even if he needs to pull his real hax move solar flare. the announcer even called that dirty fighting in the tourney. since frieza cant sense energy, he cant fight effectively against what he cant see. but i think tien is more powerful than frieza in both scenarios, but frieza has a chance.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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+ Pyrus Oct 13 2010, 09:29 PM Post #4
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 That whole Ginyu Force on Kaio's planet thing is filler, so unless you're allowing filler in here, it doesn't count.

I don't see the humans getting any stronger than perhaps 500,000. Ten loses both of these fights in a second.
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lunar2 Oct 13 2010, 11:18 PM Post #5
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Oct 13 2010, 09:29 PM
That whole Ginyu Force on Kaio's planet thing is filler, so unless you're allowing filler in here, it doesn't count.

I don't see the humans getting any stronger than perhaps 500,000. Ten loses both of these fights in a second.
you cant just say that humans have a max power and cant get stronger. never does anything put an explicit limit on the power of any race, otherwise why do the humans continue to train after they hit 500,000? unless im mistaken, wasnt the pikkon in hfil fight filler as well? so if one of the people in a versus is filler, you have to allow filler as reference, you cant pick and choose. i dont see anyone weaker than 1st form frieza holding down cell even if it was with a spirit bomb, THATS just not happening.
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+ Pyrus Oct 13 2010, 11:20 PM Post #6
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 ***** it. If we're using filler, Ten is stronger than SSj Vegetto. Nobody can argue that. There. Fight's over with.
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lunar2 Oct 14 2010, 12:01 AM Post #7
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Oct 13 2010, 11:20 PM
***** it. If we're using filler, Ten is stronger than SSj Vegetto. Nobody can argue that. There. Fight's over with.
actually i can argue that, vegetto is stronger than buuhan, tien got ko'ed in one hit.
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Gigacrusher Oct 14 2010, 12:55 AM Post #8
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 Tien is about 5,000,000 by the Buu Saga which unfortunately still isn't strong enough to fight Frieza 100% even though Tien is AWESOME. I still feel like Tien could pull of some moves between all the techniques he has such as Solar Flare and Tri-Beam but WHATEVER.
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Ussj Future Trunks Oct 14 2010, 03:58 AM Post #9
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 i dont think tien ever caught up to 100% frieza. but thats just me
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BURN THIS INTO YOUR MIND! I am emperor of the universe! The likes of you are only fit to grovel at my FEET....or better still TO BE CRUSHED, LIKE AN INSECT AT THe WHIM OF YOUR MASTER!!!- Chris Ayres, Freeza, DBZKAI dub from Funimation
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GohanVidel Oct 14 2010, 04:12 AM Post #10
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according to fan made power levels tein cell saga should rape frieza but im not so sure of that. i dont think humans have the potential to surpass frieza and basically surpass a SSJ. But i do think that a human at maximum level can great an energy blast strong enough to severly hurt maybe kill frieza. The tri beam cannon might be able to do this. But in a one on one fight i say frieza wins

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+ Ryebrid Oct 14 2010, 05:42 AM Post #11
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 Tien gets raped hardcore
Nuff said
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+ Pyrus Oct 14 2010, 06:09 AM Post #12
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Oct 14 2010, 12:01 AM
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Oct 13 2010, 11:20 PM
***** it. If we're using filler, Ten is stronger than SSj Vegetto. Nobody can argue that. There. Fight's over with.
actually i can argue that, vegetto is stronger than buuhan, tien got ko'ed in one hit.
but tenshinhan is a god. hes got alien blood in him. he just didn't use all his potential and wanted goku and vegeta to beat boo. he could've beaten anybody he wanted in the series, but he knew what would happen in the future so he didn't.
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Nusu Oct 14 2010, 10:17 AM Post #13
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Tien is in my book at least at the one million league, but never beyond.
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lunar2 Oct 14 2010, 06:01 PM Post #14
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 would someone please explain to me where they get this idea that the human fighters have some kind of limit on their power? if the human body cant sustain more power than that, then wtf is uub who is stated to be human? he's nearly as powerful as his previous form as kid buu, but his body is pure human, so there cant be a set power limit on humans. im not saying that tien will win, but to say that by the buu saga the only human that never stops training is only around 500,000 to 1,000,000? thats ridiculous. no way his pl was just 1 million at that point, super buu would have dusted him like gohan did to the cell kids, and thats a much smaller power difference.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

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Nusu Oct 14 2010, 06:42 PM Post #15
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Humans aren´t like Saiyans and are limited in power Krillin is the strongest Human and only comes close to the million range, heck even Gohan was stronger as a child then krillin, this just shows that Saiyans have more potential and didn´t u noticed? The Humans were always the weaker ones due the whole Z Saga.
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